if u have celestial and some1 use cancel on u, should remove 0 buffs?Even for me who have not played nekromanser, it becomes clear that this is not normal. Not to remove buff in a position of invulnerability ?
That's my point, cancel works through celestial, same as banes. Therefore it can't be resisted with Mental Shield buff, like stated by the Staff. Therefore my question, how come I never failed a bane on Wrath but I do fail a lot here? I guess then it's about cancel resist..? Which then should be different between Wrath and Arion..?if u have celestial and some1 use cancel on u, should remove 0 buffs?
That looks like a logical fallacy, akin to post hoc. Based on the correlation of a single observable effect, you're inferring the existence of a similar mechanism behind how banes and cancel work. Block wind walk, for example, shares the observable effect, it cancels wind walk. Are you willing to bet that it also isn't affected by Mental Shield?That's my point, cancel works through celestial, same as banes. Therefore it can't be resisted with Mental Shield buff, like stated by the Staff. Therefore my question, how come I never failed a bane on Wrath but I do fail a lot here? I guess then it's about cancel resist..? Which then should be different between Wrath and Arion..?
It seems reasonable enough.Yes, I know that. The point is that, although different skills can have similar observable effects, they do not necessarily have the same working mechanism behind the scenes. Cancellation, Infinity Spear, PvP ability of daggers and fists, banes, block wind walk, steal divinity might very well have different formulas on which they base their success rate.
So let's return to what you said - which is as follows: because the cancelling effect of certain skills works through invulnerability conditions, and because one of them seems to, empirically at least, not be influenced by Mental Shield, then all of them are not influenced by Mental Shield. Which is not necessarily true, you're establishing false causality. And not only it might not be true, it is likely to not be true - since things have been tweaked throughout the chronicles (the Infinity Spear and the Steal Divinity being the best examples).
And I'm feeling that we're pushing away from the issue. The statistical test that I've proposed is a far better method of falsifying Admin's claims.