Actually, if you'd have payed just a tad bit of attention, Neil Strauss/Style was probably the alien of the MPUA community (UNTIL HE WASN'T THERE AT ALL ANYMORE; but let's get this straight since you resorted to THIS KIND of argumentation and took me straight-on, on one of my inspirational people - assuming you took that from my Facebook profile). Exactly because when he got on top of "their game", and on top of himself for that matter, he got out of it and ran away as fast as he could (he even EXPLICITLY mentioned so in the ending of his book and sustained the same thing in his AMA on Reddit have you had the chance to read it).
He said and did the same things as those guys for as long as he needed to cling on that sense of entitlement and self-validation, because he NEEDED to get out of a clusterfuck of nothingness and a massive black-hole of average frustrated chump-ness. Literally, he felt the need to reinvent himself and prove himself that there's more to him than being a bald guy in his mid thirties with a not very interesting job, an even less interesting life and generally being the type of guy who puts up a shitty sweater, chinos and otherwise terribly looking clothes when he RARELY goes out at night.
Nobody's interested in meeting, hearing and connecting with such person, not because they're "bad" in the common denomination of the word, but because the IMAGE sells the product regardless of the products' general performance. And who's fault is that? That my friend is society's fault, and may I digress here for JUST A BIT, and remind you about a general society built and shaped almost ENTIRELY by men! for the last couple of millennia, and only recently having even STARTED to listen to the female POV. On paper, since 1791-1792 with Olympe de Gouges, but REALLY in actuality, it started with their right to vote in the 20's and had an actual and TANGIBLE effect through Simone de Beauvoir in 1949. NINETEEN-FORTY-NINE! Well, sheesh, I would call that ALL kinds of sexist, misogynistic and fucked up; but I can't quite blame you for a couple of millennias-old retarded dogma, can I? It's really not your fault, but that doesn't mean you should identify yourself with it either.
But getting back to our flock, by all means of measure, he was right to do so!(Neil Strauss idea - in case you lost me) He identified himself with a bunch of assholes that taught him how to look better, dress better and FEEL better about yourself. But as he got out of his shell, autobiographically speaking, any reader could very much understand that he got to the point where he UNDERSTOOD that all that jazz was not only about teaching you how YOU can be better for YOURSELF but in fact, it had a VERY TOXIC DOWNSIDE: it OBJECTIFIED everyone else around you.
That's what's wrong with pick-up artist communities and again, in this regard I COMPLETELY agree with Neil Strauss' vision (which you were so keen on instrumenting a counter-argument with, but for which I'm thankful cuz it was actually useful in helping shape my own set of ideas which I hope I was decently able to spit out in a coherent way) and that is ALSO what's wrong with RP/theredpill and whatever else it's called. It's NOT really about becoming a better man, it's about making yourself APPEAR to be a better man while projecting upon others that they're weaker and somehow less important/able/worthy.
And if you, a group of people or a huge part of society need to theoreticize, robotize and analyze any and all parts of human interaction in such means that the SELF always has to gain while ANY AND ALL others have nothing but to lose, regardless of their gender but ESPECIALLY if they don't have a dick to swing; and that said ideology is normal, reasonable and RIGHT... Then I don't want to be right, but that's just my choice
I never said male and female brains are not wired differently. But that's not what I implied makes you sexist either, that's just a contraption you made because you took things personally as opposed to me trying to build a conversation in which... who knows?! Maybe one or the other might've changed his mind/point of view/realized a fallacy/ or simply admit being wrong in ONE specific aspect of a conversation(I'm beginning to think that's never actually going to happen).
As to RP "only claims they are different, not that one is better than the other."
Just a couple of examples extracted of RP's HOT posts RECENTLY:
#1: Post title: Women can be a lot more then what they are...
Pressing the "See more" button for some inside peek: "...if we demand it of them." (and then a half page long of idiotic blabber) <- HOW GRACIOUS OF US TO TELL 'EM BITCHES HOW THEY COULD BE SO MUCH MORE AND THEY'VE ALREADY IMPROVED BY SIMPLY HEARING IT!
#2: women & cats / men & dogs:
"See more": I was thinking about cat and dog personalities and the stereotypes that women love cats and men love dogs.Cats are basically dark triads that constantly neg their owners and women love them. Dogs are loyal companions and men love them. Of coarse it's just a stereotype but I thought about it in redpill context and it made a lot of sense. Not a sermon, just a thought." <- FUCKIN' WOW!
#3: Better Tears In Your Twenties, Than Cats In Your Forties <- OH THIS ONE'S JUST MY PERSONAL FAVOURITE SO FAR!
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"See more": "Something popped up in my RSS recently that made me feel a little bit nostalgic. It seems an old friend has returned to the blogging scene. For context, check out the original "Ask An Asshole" series from way back in 2011:" [.....] "And now, the early-thirty-something wall victim author of Date Me, DC! has taken up the pen once more. Of course, it's a happy ending - she's dating a great new guy, and he'll definitely be sticking around through her golden years."
#4: "The value of pussy is like cars, it ain't like houses."
"See more": TLDW: Patrice says the audience is pussy whipped, 30+ yr old pussy isn't valuable, and women don't understand "man fun". <- Need I say more? That's exactly what YOU were saying last night
So yeah, do tell me MORE about this gender equality and positive identity for TRUE MEN that RP preaches
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I should probably also add that I'm NOT saying that's ALL of RP's content! I DO NOT under any circumstance think NOR said that's ALL of RP's content. But that's the major think-tank as opposed to the one you innocently presented. Most of it is misogynistic, sexist BULLSHIT and NOT "Discussion of sexual strategy in a culture increasingly lacking a positive identity for men." which is TheRedPill's subreddit description and the way I see it, a compelling euphemism for a lot of dicks drenching with frustration and "improving" themselves while diminishing others. Just like the pick-up artist community
