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Arion ressurected

Restart Arion from 0 with 10x rates ?

  • Good idea!

    Votes: 67 67.0%
  • Bad Idea !

    Votes: 33 33.0%

  • Total voters
    100
  • Poll closed .

Chakote

Joined
Mar 9, 2015
Messages
3
first of all i want to congratulate you for your project. low rate server with off files and without donations for equipment. you cant find that anywhere else.
thats why im still playing here. im helping everyone i can to make him stay in server.
the bigest problems were those disconnections. they still exists. sometimes you get dc`ed 5-10 times when you to login in. i cant imagine what
will happen if server wipes and 5k people try to login. you ll have to fix this before trying to wipe or change rates.

server mistakes:
1)no advertisment via votes etc.
2)offline ticket for 100 TOD? come on server had 5k online who were training and only 20 shops in giran. no one of them was in giran at start.
new players are checking giran when they join a server. if they see 20 shops they will leave at once and think server is dead.
3)pc bang points. premium accoun user got free weapon+sa and free buffs. he could train one char fast and easy to higher lvl and farm a lot of adena.
when the rest was trying to train buffers and earn adena for class change and weapon the PA user was buying all the TOD`s for low price.
next step is to buy vit potions. result was some people reached 70+ lvl in 1 day while others didnt had buffers to support their main char.
those chars were the first who left the server. they do wars to everyone and leave because they dont have competition.
remember those 7 cps who left?
4) russian community. russians dont want us. they play their own russian servers. they have shops and even their names in russian.
why do we need them? when the "new" russian server started all the russians left at once, where is this 19% russian community?
i bet the russians are behind the ddos attacks. there are 4-5 russian servers and 400-500 international. how can those server NOT have
big comunity?

suggestions:
1)free 1st and 2nd class change. whats the points paying 900k for 2nd class. at 70lvl+ you ll have 100kk++. this just slows down newbies.
2)remove the pc bang points system
3)make TOD tradeable after 10 days. 10eyro = 600 tod = 60kk = almost top equip for wolf. 5-6 people with 10 eyro donate can buy top equip for
great wolf at first day and with one tank around lvl70 they can kill all the rb`s. this is un-balancing the server. some people will have S grade at
2nd day while others are still with C grade.
4)wipe and make it 9x exp/sp/drop/spoil 5x adena and spoil for mats 2x ammount if possible.
5)make PA users have spoil ammount 3x or 4x (mats only) . many will buy PA for the spoil.
6)its a tip and not a suggestion. do your own offline shops (40-50 should be enough) selling mats,shots, d and c enchant, cry d/c, crafting shops
(in other words items that people will have&need at 1st day) to make giran look alive.
maybe you should try no6 right now selling up to common A weapons, shots A,cry A etc.
 
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DickTheQuick

Joined
Feb 4, 2015
Messages
46
3)make TOD tradeable after 10 days. 10eyro = 600 tod = 60kk = almost top equip for wolf. 5-6 people with 10 eyro donate can buy top equip for
great wolf at first day and with one tank around lvl70 they can kill all the rb`s. this is un-balancing the server. some people will have S grade at
2nd day while others are still with C grade.
In my opinion this is Critical Donation flaw, and I agree with Chakote 100%
 

Ea_

Joined
Mar 17, 2015
Messages
1
Still, i have no ideea if to play on, or to do anything else.
 

snowgoon

Joined
May 7, 2014
Messages
28
no one will play here lol, whatever you do dex. u just screwed up few times in a row... if u want to attract at least 1k players here, you should do server with no PA/no runes/no vit pots(LOOK AT RAIDFIGHT FFS!!!!), the real hardcore low rate server.. but, money is money.. so GG, another failed eu project.
el oh el, gtfo
 

WhiteKnight

Joined
Mar 20, 2014
Messages
59
If you guys think ppl left becasuse of DDoS you're stupid. RPG had ddos and a lot of lags for like 2 weeks and it was loaded as fuck. DDoS and problems are ALWAYS expected at server starts, ALWAYS. People left simply because the server was not highly populated, (poor advertising, absolutly no GM presence on the server, PA being stupidly OP (xp,sp,free buffs,FREE WEPS AND ENCHANTS? LOL) and on low rates you depend a lot more on groups, kamas, labas than on mid rates. and on this server it's simply just really bad right now. Raising the rates a little bit would ATLEAST help those classes who cant just one shot mobs non stop. Lets be real, lvling OL, WC, PP, BD, SWS is kinda boring on low rate if you always have to solo exp.
 
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WhiteKnight

Joined
Mar 20, 2014
Messages
59
RPG and Averia, hell, even fucking retail servers all have shop with runes and vita items and they have a lot of people.. i dont know what the fuck you're talking about lol.

the only thing, And Dex, if you really want to help your server i would consider this option: i dont agree with ONLY PA getting the PC bang points, EVERY1 should get those. PA already get more XP, more SP and free buffs. Giving them free weapons + enchants on top of the xp/sp/buffs is just retarded in my opinion.
 
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DickTheQuick

Joined
Feb 4, 2015
Messages
46
no one will play here lol, whatever you do dex. u just screwed up few times in a row... if u want to attract at least 1k players here, you should do server with no PA/no runes/no vit pots(LOOK AT RAIDFIGHT FFS!!!!), the real hardcore low rate server.. but, money is money.. so GG, another failed eu project.
I must disagree with you, raidfight have Premium Account option :) But it is only 50%exp and 50% exp boost which means that PA users suffers from low adena even more than normal accounts.
 

Stabber

Joined
Nov 14, 2013
Messages
10
bring back old school DEX x4 style and for sure will be more good then any other sh1t servers you offer us until now since then
you did it once so its posible twice
servers who last 2 , 3 months in best case 6 months you cant call them succesfull , only if the target was real life adena
 

ssadqhar

Joined
Mar 19, 2015
Messages
2
Hello all

The problem I think is with the game not with server or rates or not even chronicle. L2 servers die nowdays before they even start. I am one of the players that played here on c4 so for me Dex was always a good server no matter all the problems have been here over the time.


Why don"t u try open low rates server with old chronicle C3, C4 etc and make chronicle updates at some time. Actually I think this is what kept old server up for so long, no-lifers will always rush on every chronicle get to the end and then quit, and then server will prooly die, with this you can keep them in game for a longer period, even if some will leave, there is a good chance for them to come back after the update for the next chronicle is done. I will definetly play on a server like this, and I think many of older players will also.

I don"T know how the all data base transfer work and so, I don`t now how hard it is to make such server, but in my opinion will be for sure a server which will last more than a year, maybe the "last lullaby" of this game which you can now play for free on oficial but still there is a problem with number of players everywhere.

that`s all I had to say in that matter, I don"t think making Arion x9 or x15 or something will do any good, or will change anything, at most u get couple of months that`s all, make a C2 server update from time to time till Hi5 and u have a server for 2-3 years.

Have a nice day
 
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meangirl

Joined
Mar 10, 2015
Messages
3
Now, when the login issues have been solved. All this server needs is a little bit more advertizing.
There are no good low rate h5 servers. I can say even that there are no good low rate servers at any chronicles. I don't like the idea of going to really old chronicle. There are people loving and playing the kamael race( I am not one of these people). I guess the staff of the server can make the Wrath server x9 with heavy advertisement. If you can run the server before the Easter will be great. There will be a lot of people free to play during the vacations.
I like the idea of the newbie helper, but the class change of the 1st and 2nd class must not be free. For first there are easy and interesting quests (Oh, god why I need that spoiler again, Damn I hate that Mion Trader. Toma should be executed !) and until you reach second you will have enough adena for change. Even if you don't you still can make some selling mats or other stuff. This way the economy of the server will be growing.
Maybe such simple events like gathering the letters for enchant scrolls, vitality lollypops or the medal event will be fun. After all its bad when you reach 50 lvl and your vitality is fully gone.
I have that memory that the labyrinths will restore to max the vitality once completed, but I may be wrong.
About donation I liked the idea of removing the weapons and enchantments. Or at least the enchants. They make the donators able to go for pk/pvp grinding and the enchants make them superior. The other possible situation is to leave the weapons for all toons for limited time since the start of the server .I have the feeling that getting these weapons makes it too easy.
People look for low server to find some challenge. It shouldn't be so easy for gearing and getting adena.
 

Hanze

Latin Community Helper
Moderator
Joined
Dec 26, 2013
Messages
99
Hello all

The problem I think is with the game not with server or rates or not even chronicle. L2 servers die nowdays before they even start. I am one of the players that played here on c4 so for me Dex was always a good server no matter all the problems have been here over the time.


Why don"t u try open low rates server with old chronicle C3, C4 etc and make chronicle updates at some time. Actually I think this is what kept old server up for so long, no-lifers will always rush on every chronicle get to the end and then quit, and then server will prooly die, with this you can keep them in game for a longer period, even if some will leave, there is a good chance for them to come back after the update for the next chronicle is done. I will definetly play on a server like this, and I think many of older players will also.

I don"T know how the all data base transfer work and so, I don`t now how hard it is to make such server, but in my opinion will be for sure a server which will last more than a year, maybe the "last lullaby" of this game which you can now play for free on oficial but still there is a problem with number of players everywhere.

that`s all I had to say in that matter, I don"t think making Arion x9 or x15 or something will do any good, or will change anything, at most u get couple of months that`s all, make a C2 server update from time to time till Hi5 and u have a server for 2-3 years.

Have a nice day
+++1!
 

Stabber

Joined
Nov 14, 2013
Messages
10
Now, when the login issues have been solved. All this server needs is a little bit more advertizing.
There are no good low rate h5 servers. I can say even that there are no good low rate servers at any chronicles. I don't like the idea of going to really old chronicle. There are people loving and playing the kamael race( I am not one of these people). I guess the staff of the server can make the Wrath server x9 with heavy advertisement. If you can run the server before the Easter will be great. There will be a lot of people free to play during the vacations.
I like the idea of the newbie helper, but the class change of the 1st and 2nd class must not be free. For first there are easy and interesting quests (Oh, god why I need that spoiler again, Damn I hate that Mion Trader. Toma should be executed !) and until you reach second you will have enough adena for change. Even if you don't you still can make some selling mats or other stuff. This way the economy of the server will be growing.
Maybe such simple events like gathering the letters for enchant scrolls, vitality lollypops or the medal event will be fun. After all its bad when you reach 50 lvl and your vitality is fully gone.
I have that memory that the labyrinths will restore to max the vitality once completed, but I may be wrong.
About donation I liked the idea of removing the weapons and enchantments. Or at least the enchants. They make the donators able to go for pk/pvp grinding and the enchants make them superior. The other possible situation is to leave the weapons for all toons for limited time since the start of the server .I have the feeling that getting these weapons makes it too easy.
People look for low server to find some challenge. It shouldn't be so easy for gearing and getting adena.
earth to meangirl> you are out of fuel
 

DickTheQuick

Joined
Feb 4, 2015
Messages
46
Staff could you summarize your thoughts about this thread and share your plan coz I am playing L2 Dex Forum for one week, dont know how much longer I can hold. (really want to play this weekend on server with alive beings).
 

ratking

Joined
Mar 19, 2015
Messages
2
Regardless of decision, this poll itself finished the server for now. Nobody will spend 20 hours (just example) of tedious and painful farming knowing they might have to do it again the next day. That´s exectly what killed Arion last time (that reroll thing). About changing rates... I don´t know if that migh bring players back. The only excuse to do so is that nowadays people don´t have that much time for l2 anymore. Untill a final decision is made, I´ll be standing by, like many others, waiting for DEX to stand on it´s feet again and have a good time. Wish you good luck, I know it´s hard to keep it up with so many expenses...
 

Ezio

Joined
Dec 19, 2013
Messages
6
Me and my CP and friends we had played in all dex servers until now we came to arion but we left in second day ....
and maybe we will come again in new arion IF you make good adveritising on new server like all spring and summer and open the server in fall if u do this u wil bring many ppl (rpg x3 will die until fall 2015) and other server like rpg and dex dont exist in eu/russian community and the critical situation u must fix the problems with logins and downtimes (make everything u must to do and u will bring ppl) the most important is to make a really good advertising ....good luck
 
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